Faultlines crack in Quick’s faction
The issue of whether the Lord’s Prayer should be dropped from Parliament has exposed deep ideological faultlines within Ian Quick’s faction.
Party members have taken to social media, expressing positions ranging from extreme christphobia to far right activism.
The Liberal Party values freedom but when the positions fall within the same faction, it exposes the true dysfunction and disunity that is unsustainable.
The Lord’s Prayer debate is not the first issue to bring out a variety of startlingly opposing opinions, as similar internal troubles were exposed during the Same Sex Marriage debate. There have also been discussions about freedom of religion in general, including the possibility of Federal legislation on the subject.
These views have come to such a head that Brad Roswell and James Paterson have decided to run a meeting to discuss them. Members reading between the lines will know where the factional faultlines run here.
In one online discussion, multiple members noted that Michael O’Brien has been a very weak leader, in the context of his silence on the Lord’s Prayer issue. Not coincidentally and characteristically, O’Brien reacted to the internal criticism and quickly made a public statement in support of the Lord’s Prayer, much to the chagrin of a portion of his own faction within the Liberal Party. That faction is Ian Quick’s faction.
Those against the Lord’s Prayer soon reacted, expressing their views that it should go. Consequently one party member wrote in response that some party members are “starting to sound just like Christian hater Fiona Patten”. Factional player Ben Reeson immediately went into action, going to town on the viewpoints being expressed.
“I disagree entirely,” wrote Reeson. “A free, secular society means we are free … I don’t think the state should ever be empowered to decide which faith or expression of it is correct.” That is, since the Lord’s Prayer is overtly of the Christian religion, it should be dropped.
Gladys Liu supporter Maria Ngo argued that separation of church and state is a lie.
Then on another Liberal Party social media group, hard left Ian Quick plant, Mikey Oram stated, “I didn’t realize the Liberal Party didn’t support separation of church and state.”
This led to a sharp response from one of Ian Quick’s factional branch stackers, Bill Rizopoulos, “Are you kidding? There is no separation of Church & State in this country.”
Mikey Oram then retaliated, “So your [sic] happy with – say a Muslim prayer? They have a God. A prayer to Zeus? He is a god. I agree though, the Constitution does need an update – take religious references out when we oust the Monarchist system. Anyway, are you planning to answer the question about justifying parliamentary prayer in an increasingly non Christian country?”
Oram also sarcastically told another person, “yep, that will help the Liberal Party represent more than 50% of people who are not Christian. Let’s force religious bias on them, that will not work.”
Ian Quick supporter and webpage admin Jan Millard then stepped in, “Mikey Oram and by your maths 50% are religious…”
By this stage Millard told her factional fellow travellers Rizopoulos and Oram, “Ease up! Libs should respect each other’s POV not sling derogatory terms around. Frankly as we are based on western-Judea [sic] principles no issue at all in retaining the Lord’s Prayer. (Plus I like history and preserving.) Seriously a long-standing Prayer cannot hurt you …”
Because apparently division within a faction can hurt you.
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